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2 jeunes français de dijon et bourgogne se sont affrontes pour ramener en france un titre national. |
gné ? .... titre national de quelle fédé ? 
j'ai rien compris là , tu précises ?
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| Antuan vs Robinson- hard fight to score, there were times were my vision was obscured by the referee but everyone knows me im honest and i will write what i see so here is my score
Antuan Robinson R1 10 10 R2 10 9 R3 9 10 R4 10* 10 R5 9 10 total 48 49 the other judges had a draw and win to Antuan, in all honesty and i think the other three judges would agree it was a fair decision at the end, i didnt agree with Antuans behavior at the end very unprofessional and you dont get extra points for showboating in the UK. i felt rather sorry for Alby Bimpson he has tried to boost the thaiboxing scene in the UK by trying to promote a big show, bringing the thais over etc, and he keeps getting thrown into the firing line god knows why, hes a real gent and will go out of his way for anyone, hes not afraid to put his hand in his pocket i can gaurantee everyone who was at that show was looked after, the food for the vips was A1 there was also food laid on at a hotel after the show for all officials trainers and fighters, i know last year there were a few portugese kids who were let down on a fight so he bought them over to the UK for a free holiday and even give the kids a little sparring session at a gym and presented them with trophys afterwards so they could show there local press when they went home all paid for by Alby. The show wasnt the huge success Alby wanted, he was let down with the GBH fights last week, he was let down by the french and was also let down by the thais, Antuans team were supposed to be bringing a full thai over with them and they didnt bother because they THOUGHT he wasnt matched when he was, then there were the weight problems with antuan the day before, Antuan was overweight on the scales and his father/trainer/promoter asked alby to forget he had seen the weight differance and in return would promote the goldenbelt in thailand and make it big, Alby said no off coarse and Antuans said they would ruin the goldenbelt in thailand and they would never get fighters in the UK ever again, and when they said Liam would fight him anyway for a none title they said they would have to think about it, Antuan in my eyes you are a disgrace to thaiboxing and thailand Alby has offered you nothing but the hand of freindship and this is how you repay him i think you and your family owe Alby and the goldenbelt an appoligy, all they have done is defend you in the past and this is how you repay them. Alby im sorry mate you asked me to keep it to myself but fuck em i havnt got time for people like that and all promoters and trainers need to be made aware of these shamefull tactics. |
je suis pas bilingue ok ....mais même sur le site en anglais, tu t'es pas fait que des amis bip, n'est ce pas ?
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| I did not want to air my opinion in this way but it looks like I have to, so here it goes.
We originally set out to put on a great show, and we feel we did achieve this, despite what felt like obvious attempts to destroy the show by many different sides. We prepaid a large amount of money to the Thailand party, and had an agreed amount of fighters. We hold our hands up yes and Antuan refuse to make weight for world title fight and then they threaten promoter that will make bad name for him in Thailand etc... Serge speak to judge before and say if you make my son win world title will make your organisation famous in Thailand etc... lot of bad language and threats when they dont let him win title etc... |
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| From Master Alby Bimpson:
I did not want to air my opinion in this way but it looks like I have to, so here it goes. We originally set out to put on a great show, and we feel we did achieve this, despite what felt like obvious attempts to destroy the show by many different sides. We prepaid a large amount of money to the Thailand party, and had an agreed amount of fighters. We hold our hands up and admit that we had to cancel one of the fighters (Lerdsila) as we could not match him and stay within the strict budget we had. We were shocked and disappointed when the party was collected in Liverpool minus one fighter (Parinya), which we had paid for, and were not informed that he would not be coming to fight. This then let down Parinya's opponent, which we deeply regret. We formally apologise to Aliksandr Kutsen from Belarus, and to Mr Paul Sutton who went out of his way to help us match this fight. The World Title fight was arranged between Liam and Antuan under the weight category of 74.5-67kg. On the evening of the weigh in (Friday) Liam came in bang on weight. Antuan came in at 69.9kg. We informed Antuan and his father Serge, that to fight for this World Title that he was allowed one hour to make the weight. This is standard practise. One sweat suit and skipping later, Antuan weighed in at 69kg and sat down. Obviously this did not then meet the weight category required. This is when the fun started. With Antuan sat down and refusing to lose any more weight, his father began to shout and scream uncontrollably at times, with quotes such as "This does not happen in Thailand, we would be allowed to fight" and "give a bottle of water to Liam and reweigh him, and then we can fight". We tried to explain the strictness of weight categories, and that this had been organised many months ago, and that to fight for the World Title Antuan must make the weight, no discrepencies. We were then threatened by Serge, that if we did not allow the fight as the weights stood, he would destroy the name of the Golden Belt in Thailand, and that we would never be allowed to bring a fighter from Thailand again, and Golden Belt would be disrespected in Thailand. At this point we must point out that Liam Robinson and his trainer Tony Myers were complete gentlemen and did what they could to make this fight happen. Inbetween negotiations to and from the weigh in room and the lounge, myself and Mark Wilson were approached by Serge, who said "Can you not just say that you have seen Antuan make the weight, and this will make the fight, as this is how it is done in Thailand". He also approached someone he believed to be one of the judges and said that if Antuan was to win, he would make Golden Belt big in Thailand as he would go back and publicise the Golden Belt, having the belt to do that with. This is a total disgrace to Thai Boxing and to Thailand. You can imagine the responses he was met with, as I would rather pack in everything than go against what I stand for and have worked so hard to achieve. After many hours, it was agreed that Liam would win the Title by default, but that if Antuan could lose more weight, Liam would fight him (giving away both weight and experience). One condition of this would be that Antuan forfeit £250 of his purse to Liam. We (the Golden Belt) agreed this to be fair and proper. Unfortunately this was met with hostility and some four letter words, and that they would forfeit nothing. A lot of cursing and disrespect happened, evident to everyone, including those who could not speak French. We found it incredibly disrespectful that this was happening infront of Golden Belt representatives (one of which does speak french) behind my back. To date we have received no apology for their behaviour, and we have received no refund, either for Liam or for fighters that we have paid for who did not come. We have been told that if we attempt to enforce this that Serge would again discredit us in Thailand. It is my opinion that Serge is a disgrace to the sport of Thai Boxing and to Thailand, and very unprofession in both his actions and his attitude. Something that is sadly rubbing off on his son Antuan, which was clearly evident by his sulky attitude, disprespect, bad language, and the reaction to the decision of the fight - which can be seen on P4TV. Yes Antuan is a very good fighter, and has great potential, but we do not believe that his father is the right person to take that forward, and will ultimately alienate this fighter from all promoters and countries. I am happy to speak to all other Associations regarding this, and any contacts throughout the World. We have worked with other promoters in Thailand, one which being Mr Thakoon, whose attitude is a credit to Thai Boxing and could not be further from the experiences we have had in the last week. More on the fight itself in a moment. |
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